Comments on: An unexpected occurrence http://walkjivefly.com/2010/07/an-unexpected-occurrence/ Observations on anything and everything - enroute to Buenos Aires for more tango Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:01:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Mark http://walkjivefly.com/2010/07/an-unexpected-occurrence/comment-page-1/#comment-185 Mark Fri, 27 Aug 2010 04:17:33 +0000 http://walkjivefly.com/?p=244#comment-185 Hi Maraya, Maybe it's the season for unusual pairings, maybe the organisers value the entradas over the codigos. I don't remember exactly where or when - my brain is fried from running around with two visiting tanguera friends for the last two weeks - but at one of the traditional milongas in the last week I saw another instance of two ladies dancing together. I know several ladies who lead in modern jive but none other than teachers who lead in tango. I'm sorry you find some mens' lack of ability boring or frustrating. Now that you lead yourself do you have more or less sympathy/understanding of those mens' lack of ability? What is it about leading that you love so much? I think any event with "practica" in the title should be an acceptable place for "less appropriate" couples to practice. Where they dance after that is a trickier question. Cheers, Mark. Hi Maraya,

Maybe it’s the season for unusual pairings, maybe the organisers value the entradas over the codigos. I don’t remember exactly where or when – my brain is fried from running around with two visiting tanguera friends for the last two weeks – but at one of the traditional milongas in the last week I saw another instance of two ladies dancing together.
I know several ladies who lead in modern jive but none other than teachers who lead in tango. I’m sorry you find some mens’ lack of ability boring or frustrating. Now that you lead yourself do you have more or less sympathy/understanding of those mens’ lack of ability? What is it about leading that you love so much? I think any event with “practica” in the title should be an acceptable place for “less appropriate” couples to practice. Where they dance after that is a trickier question.

Cheers,
Mark.

]]> By: Maraya http://walkjivefly.com/2010/07/an-unexpected-occurrence/comment-page-1/#comment-183 Maraya Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:44:10 +0000 http://walkjivefly.com/?p=244#comment-183 I was surprised to see two men dancing with each other exceptionally well one Thursday night at Niño Bien. That same night two other men wearing baseball caps sat at a table against the wall observing. My partner motioned for them to remove their hats but they did not comply. When I mentioned this to Cherie she suggested that the milongas are getting looser in their protocol - possibly for the sake of the peso. I love to lead - and I started for many reasons but mostly because I just want to dance and I was bored - lack of men and their lack of ability - and waiting to be asked. Unfortunately, there just are not enough places, even in (or especially in?) BA for the 'less appropriate' couples to practice. I was surprised to see two men dancing with each other exceptionally well one Thursday night at Niño Bien. That same night two other men wearing baseball caps sat at a table against the wall observing. My partner motioned for them to remove their hats but they did not comply. When I mentioned this to Cherie she suggested that the milongas are getting looser in their protocol – possibly for the sake of the peso.

I love to lead – and I started for many reasons but mostly because I just want to dance and I was bored – lack of men and their lack of ability – and waiting to be asked. Unfortunately, there just are not enough places, even in (or especially in?) BA for the ‘less appropriate’ couples to practice.

]]> By: Mark http://walkjivefly.com/2010/07/an-unexpected-occurrence/comment-page-1/#comment-176 Mark Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:58:04 +0000 http://walkjivefly.com/?p=244#comment-176 Hi Bob, I don't think of it as an infection. I think it's helpful for both leaders and followers to have at least an appreciation of the other role. I haven't (so far as I know) danced with any followers who lead regularly. People can dance whichever role they wish to. But there is a time and a place for combinations other than the usual male leader and female follower. Maybe they were protesting there aren't enough times and places, maybe they were just having a laugh, or maybe they just don't care what the usual/accepted behaviour is. It's not impossible you'll see me in October. Time will tell... Cheers, Mark. Hi Bob,

I don’t think of it as an infection. I think it’s helpful for both leaders and followers to have at least an appreciation of the other role. I haven’t (so far as I know) danced with any followers who lead regularly. People can dance whichever role they wish to. But there is a time and a place for combinations other than the usual male leader and female follower. Maybe they were protesting there aren’t enough times and places, maybe they were just having a laugh, or maybe they just don’t care what the usual/accepted behaviour is.

It’s not impossible you’ll see me in October. Time will tell…

Cheers,
Mark.

]]> By: Tangobob http://walkjivefly.com/2010/07/an-unexpected-occurrence/comment-page-1/#comment-150 Tangobob Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:08:57 +0000 http://walkjivefly.com/?p=244#comment-150 Hi Mark You post leads me to a lot of comments. This leader follower thing is infecting dances everywhere, while I can understand why women, left on the sidelines would want to lead, my experience is that those who have learned to lead become poorer followers. Call me a miserable old fuddy duddy if you like, but apart from classes men should dance with women, and women should follow. That is why despite much pressure Viv has refused to learn to lead, and in my opinion is the best follower in these parts. As for un sociable dancing, I am glad to see that this is being commented on, not before time. I have stopped going to Maipu 444 on a monday after being kicked in the shoulders by an over exuberant flying heel. In our favourite Club Fulgor, Roberto will stop the dancing and tell unsociable dancers to leave the floor. Hope you will still be there when we return in October. Bob Hi Mark
You post leads me to a lot of comments. This leader follower thing is infecting dances everywhere, while I can understand why women, left on the sidelines would want to lead, my experience is that those who have learned to lead become poorer followers.
Call me a miserable old fuddy duddy if you like, but apart from classes men should dance with women, and women should follow. That is why despite much pressure Viv has refused to learn to lead, and in my opinion is the best follower in these parts.
As for un sociable dancing, I am glad to see that this is being commented on, not before time. I have stopped going to Maipu 444 on a monday after being kicked in the shoulders by an over exuberant flying heel. In our favourite Club Fulgor, Roberto will stop the dancing and tell unsociable dancers to leave the floor.
Hope you will still be there when we return in October.
Bob

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